A long time ago a friend of mine who just started playing Disc Golf asked me a fantastic question:
“What is more important… manipulating the angle of the disc to fly how you want it to, or understanding how the disc is supposed to fly when thrown flat, and utilize it’s natural characteristics?”
The first thing I said, and I would think most would agree, is that you need to understand how your disc flies naturally first. Not only how it is supposed to fly new, but how it will eventually fly after you have hit all those darn trees and broke it in. You can really only determine this with your own experimentation disc to disc since no one knows how much bark you’ve made fly!
The rule of thumb with plastic is the cheaper it is, the quicker it will become understable with use. And for some plastics such as the Discraft Titanium plastic, that disc will fly the same as brand new forever. The Titanium plastic is close to indestructible. Don’t rely on expensive plastics to change flight characteristics too much over time.
Also, more expensive is not always best. One of the cheapest plastics you can buy is the Discraft Pro-D, I have an XL Pro-D, and it’s a staple in my bag. It’s crucial for me because after years of use it went from stable to understable, and I now use it as a roller or a predictable turnover disc.
Once you are very comfortable with how your disc flies (make sure you are using the same grip, speed, etc. to ensure predictability), then move on to manipulating your hyzer and anhyzer shots.
With proper practice and experimentation you will know if a disc thrown flat will give you exactly what you need without the huge unpredictability of angling a hyzer or anhyzer.
Grip, Throw, Repeat,
Recently I had the pleasure of playing White Oak Park in Dallas, GA. A beautiful open hilly course — nice little pond that comes into to play for holes after 14 too. The air was a bit brisk, but certainly a good day to hear chains as always. After about 6 holes I noticed my go-to Sidewinder not having the same glide it usually has. This made me think…
I’m not a meteorologist or a physicist, but proper disc weight in adverse conditions, no matter the skill level, is extremely important!
Over the years I have heard that low weight discs (roughly 150-168) are easier for distance, but hard to release and control consistently, especially with wind. Heavier discs are naturally more over-stable (slightly), harder to gain distance, but consistent. I find that this is very true.
BUT… I’ve yet to read about disc weights and how to adjust them according to the weather, mainly temperature.
I found that throwing my 172g Sidewinder feels like throwing a 190g when it’s coat-wearing time. It sunk like the Titanic on my first moderate up-shot this last weekend. I bought a 154g disc today to compare, and I had a tremendous improvement.
I highly recommend adjusting your disc weight according to the outside temperature. In these low temperatures of Winter (high 40’s right now here in Georgia) my go-to weight is 160 now, but I am not a high speed thrower. The beauty of Disc Golf is you need to find what works best for YOU. Right now, for me, it seems that lighter weight cuts the cold air a bit better.
Peripheral Blood Flow
While playing at White Oak, the great J.T. of this blog made an EXCELLENT point. When the weather is cold, our hands don’t have as much blood flow and do not move and react as they normally do. So naturally when we throw the disc it may not have the same release point, usually late-whipping it way off track — to the right for right handed back handed throwers.
The way he remedied this is by using a modified fan grip on his drives as he would a long approach shot. Since the fingers aren’t tucked in the rim, they don’t need to get out of the way in time, giving you a smooth release. As long as you have grip on the disc and can still snap it, this is a fantastic modification for cold weather conditions.
As always, these points and tips are something to read, enjoy, and go by – not to live by. Disc Golf is truly amazing because it’s personal. In order to become great you have to practice A LOT and define your own game. I just hope the tips and stories we share here at Dogleg Disc Golf steer you into a happy and successful direction.
As we’ve all heard by now, a big change for the world of disc golf will be announced on New Year’s Day. Many of the most well known pros have dropped major sponsors and have dropped hints of a revolution happening at the start of 2013. Players including two-time U.S. Champion Will Schusterick, 2011 World Champion Paige Pierce, 2006 Amateur World Champion Paul Ulibarri, and 2011 Junior World Champion Ricky Wysocki have all made announcements via social media this month. The online disc golf community has been asking for more than a week: what’s the hype about?
The answer? No one seems to know. The signs from the pros seem to point in different directions, which has caused a handful of theories to emerge.
The most conspiracy-like idea is that a new super company is about to emerge. Most references call it Prodigy Disc Golf. A person or group with a large base of financial support supposedly backs the new company. The sponsored players would have a larger salary than they get with currently existing sponsors, like Dynamic Discs. Prodigy is assumed to be a disc manufacturer, because the majority of the pros have dropped Innova, Discraft, and/or Dynamic Discs (who recently released a line of discs manufactured through Latitude 64). That’s why 2010 World Champion Eric McCabe announced yesterday that he would no longer be sponsored by Discraft, so he could join Team Dynamic Discs. This would also explain why some of the pros have picked up new retailor sponsors—like Will Schusterick and Paige Pierce joining the Journey Post team, based out of Branson, Mo.
Another line of theories all point in the direction of existing corporations breaking into the disc golf market. As can be expected, Nike has been mentioned by many because of its large financial base and role as a sponsor in most major sports in the United States. Keen’s name has also been thrown in the hat; they already sponsor a few players, like Avery Jenkins, and have produced footwear with Vibram, who has also manufactured discs.
Regardless of whether a new company is forming, or an existing company is growing, the guys at Furthering the Disc are definitely stirring the social media . Will Schusterick, who dropped Innova and Discmania on December 16, is a key player in their social media movement to revitalize disc golf. Both Will and FTD have been promoting the hashtag #discopalypse13 on Twitter.
Until Tuesday, when the pros are set to make their big announcement, all we can do is try to put the pieces together and hope that they add up to something that will advance the sport we all love. Share your thoughts on what’s going on by commenting, or tweeting @DoglegDiscGolf. Do you think that everyone is moving in the same direction? Is a new company forming, or is disc golf just getting more commercialized? Is this ordeal going to help the sport grow in 2013? What do you want to see the pros doing next year?
After reading J.T.’s review of Legacy Park, I thought I would take the trip to Kennesaw and check out the lil’ 9-holer. The course is in a beautiful community that is extremely well maintained, but as you may have already read in previous posts, the course is private to residents and/or their guests.
I LOVED the little course, and it may be my number one favorite course in Georgia so far. BUT… I feel the reason may have been the day I chose to play Legacy. 68 degrees, perfect breeze, leaves falling and squirrels everywhere gathering for winter. It was simply beautiful disc golf or no disc golf.
The best thing about Legacy may be it’s downfall. It is extremely accessible to beginners and is certainly the course that hooks a newbie into the sport, but serious disc golfers may be bored with it’s mainly ace-able holes and lack of diversity on the land.
What this course is PERFECT for is working on your straight game, and I can’t stress enough the importance of a fairway driver. While not as fast as a distance driver, it will go where you put it without a lot of fade.
I throw the Innova TL, and exclusively threw it playing Legacy. I don’t know if I was just having a good day on the course, or the TL is truly amazing. I’m not a hard thrower, so it tends to go just as far as my distance drivers anyway, but it’s placement is reliable.
A lot of players think that throwing a distance driver means getting distance, but what may happen is they under power the disc and it doesn’t go any farther than a mid range would, and the disc dives to the ground where you didn’t want it. I’ve been there.
What I love about a fairway driver is not only how they fly, but how they feel. When I toss the TL, The grip is much more comfortable than a sharp distance driver, and it rips out of my hands with grace.
After having a wonderful day with the TL, I know what my go-to disc is now. The next time you need a straight beautiful drive, reach for your favorite fairway driver.
Here are a few pics from beautiful Legacy Park:
About a month or so ago I was on DGCourseReview.com and saw an ad banner up at the top talking about some new plastic called Titanium from Discraft. Does anyone know anything or have played with this new Titanium plastic? Is it stiffer than their other lines of plastic and/or comparable to Innova’s rigid Champion line of plastic? How about the weight, are they only available in the heavier sizes? I was curious and realized it was one of Discraft’s more premium plastics as it did cost a few extra bucks.
Honestly, I can’t even remember what store’s banner it was that it was advertising. Sounded cool.. but again that’s what I thought when I first heard about Innova’s Blizzard Champions. I still don’t like those. I have one and still don’t see any advantages to it. I can’t keep it out of the tree line because I turn it over every throw.
But, if you’ve hucked some Discraft Titanium plastic, let me know! I may give it a shot.
Good grief, we sure owe all of our fans/visitors new content. It has been some time since our last post. And let me tell you, LOTS of good stuff and our disc golf trips/events have happened in the several weeks the blog went silent. I know here at Dogleg, we’ve been extremely busy the past month or two just with our regular lives outside of disc golf. But I can promise you guys, we’re about to start spitting out some new posts here these next two weeks.
You guys deserve it. I know we’re still getting decent traffic in our “down” time, but we want to provide you guys with more content. Fresh content. Last week we brought on a new friend to the Dogleg blog who we’ve gotten a chance to play a few rounds with these past two weeks. Cool dude and loves some disc golf! I’m looking forward to what he can bring to the blog.
I’m going to try my best to write a post a day for a week straight. Yes. So come back and check it out! I also highly encourage you guys–our readers–to comment and let us know what you’d like to read more of. Hey, if you enjoy writing, love disc golf and would like to contribute, please drop us a line at DoglegDG@gmail.com to let us know!
Here’s a snippet of what you might can expect to roll out in the next few days [in no particular order].
-North Jasper Park Inaugural Ace Race Review
-Alpharetta’s Will’s Park Review/Dogshow Fiasco
-Urban Atlanta’s Perkerson Park Review
-Mancation 2012: Denver – Highlights, Reviews and Pics
-Canton’s Sequoyah DG Recap
-Discraft’s Titanium Plastic
-Kennesaw’s Legacy Park Review
-Advice on Discs
& possibly more!
This Discraft Nuke SS Z-line 174g Disc is nearly a brand NEW disc. I’ve literally only thrown it a handful of times. It is a Z-line model plastic which means it’s the most durable, has truer flights, and last 2-3 times longer than other discs. This disc is great for beginning players because it allows you to get the distance of much more advanced players with less power. It hooks a lil much at slow speeds for my taste, but it must just be how I throw. I’ve got a few friends that love Nukes. This high-vis yellow Nuke SS has no dings at all. It has a minor surface scratch on underside of rim and has some ink on the back. The stamp on top is perfectly intact. Great disc. It says it’s a 174g and I’d rate its condition as 5/5.
I’m willing to trade this disc as well. I’m looking for brightly colored Innova Pro Katanas between 167-172g weight. Let me know!
5 = Nearly perfect (only thrown a few times)
4 = Very lightly used (One or two minor dings or scuffs)
3 = Normal used (normal amount of dings or surface scuffs, will look like most discs people have in their bag).
2 = Moderately Used (a couple larger dings/scratches and/or a slight misshape)
1 = Heavily Used (disc has seen a lot of use but still has some life left in it)
Where’s Jeremiah at on these boards? Haha. Jeremiah, tell me about this NukeSS you have. I thought I remembered you having one that day we all played at George Ward. I need a couple more good backhand drivers to try out and was wanting to get your thoughts. How does the NukeSS compare to the AvengerSS for those of you that have thrown them? I’ve only been throwing Innova now, but wanted to maybe branch out and try some Discrafts.
Speaking of missing, where’s ol’ buddy ol’ Carson? He disappeared quicker than Stephen’s Star Beast as it trailed off into the sunset atop George Ward’s jungle canopy that day. Now lets hear it from the Dogleg Texan crew.
DG this weekend! If I don’t get nuked by this GA heat.
I found this disc untagged in a ditch. I threw it ten to fifteen times while practicing and decided it was not a lost disc but someone had thrown it in the ditch like it was a candy bar wrapper or a cigarette butt, TRASH. So now two months later I have revisited this disc at the driving range. This could possibly be the most versatile driver I have thrown. With a moderate amount of hyzer you can hold a long straight line with almost no fade at the end. This disc has replaced my forehand overstable drive when I need to go left and break back to the right. I throw it high and left with a little anhyzer and it will get around the obstacles and flex out back to the left which at that point is straight. With a lot of hyzer and thrown right it will fade like it is an over stable disc but try to flatten out late in the flight. I feel that this disc has endless possibilities. I will never play without one of these in my bag. I just don’t know the weight because discraft doesn’t write it on the bottom.